8/14/11 'Ard Boyz prelims @ NGIT

[Andrew]

You going to play? If so, since I can't remember your last initial I'll need that .

[liberatedobject]

I will know for sure this Monday or Tuesday if I will attend.

[deris87]

I'm planning on being there for now, but my schedule is really hectic, so it's entirely possible the day before I'll find out I can't be there. Last initial is B.

[Andrew]

Okie dokie!

[Andrew]

One more week to sign up! Are you all really going to skip on potentially easy prizes??

[Depayen]

Tom Curzi wants to be added to the list.

[liberatedobject]

I'm working on da boyz in the hopes I get the day off.

[liberatedobject]

Nope, I work that day sadly.

[Andrew]

Play hookie.

[tweak]

There is a chance that I may go. Depends on schedule and how stuff goes.

[deris87]

Andrew, will you be judging during the tournament? If so, I was hoping to get a preliminary ruling on Haywire Blasters.

They're a S4 weapon that has the additional rule: "If a Haywire Blaster hits a vehicle, resolve its effects as normal. Then roll a further d6. On a 1, nothing happens. On a 2-5 the vehicle takes a glancing hit. On a 6, it takes a penetrating hit."

So if you successfully hit, after resolving the S4 attack and any saves, you roll a d6 to determine the subsequent "haywire" effect. Would this subsequent effect by subject to any cover saves? Strictly speaking, I wouldn't think so, because it only specifies the vehicle has to be hit to suffer the effect (not unsaved hits, or even successful damage rolls--because how many vehicles are you gonna hurt with 1 S4 shot?), but I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

[Andrew]

I'll be judging yes. If we have an odd number of people, I'll be playing, in which case John will be judging. But I can still answer the Q:

Yes, a vehicle that is obscured would get to use it against the Haywire affect. Why?

"If the target is obscured and suffers a glancing or penetrating hit, it may take a cover save against it." (p.62).

Pretty black and white on this question, and thankfully too; far too many of GW's rules fails are very grey-area.

However, it could be cut off at the head before even rolling for the Haywire. Say you shoot at an AV10 vehicle and score a Glancing Hit. I'd get to make a cover save against that hit; if successful, the entire hit is discarded. This would also preclude your Haywire affect from happening, since the hit no longer exists.

This is the same with the Blood Angels magna-grapple, where it has an extra affect that's resolved after the hit and any damage that causes.

Amusingly enough, it's a case of "Hit but don't cause damage and you'll be able to do more to it" or "Hit and damage and get no extra bonuses."

[tweak]

I totally forgot to ask this Thursday Andrew but will my counts as model work for a vindicare asassin?

www.thewarstore.com/product46004.html

Its got the same wargear, the big rifle, and usually that's all that matters.

Hopefully you see this before sunday so I can figure out if I need to quickly change my list.

Oh and I'm a for sure instead of a maybe

[Andrew]

Sadly you can't use him. The 'Ard Boyz rules state that you cannot use non-GW models.

[Andrew]

Results are in!

1. Lucas Wilson - 54 - Space Marines
2. Fred Fortman - 48 - Flesh Tearers (Blood Angels)
3. Jeff Florido - 41 - Imperial Guard
4. Josh Nedler - 36 - Grey Knights
4. Tom Curzi - 36 - Chaos
6. Jon Frizzel - 34 - Blood Angels
6. Keith B. - 34 - Dark Eldar
8. David Phelps - 29 - Orks
9. Brian Kovak - 24 - Grey Knights
10. Sam Akers - 8 - Imperial Guard

[shintaibane]

Way to go Lucas!!

[Andrew]

Him and his razorback spam leading the way!

'ey, that's what 'Ard Boyz is all about though.