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Post by Pop goes the world on Feb 4, 2008 13:26:45 GMT -6
Okay, I have bitched about Privateer Press poses in the past, but this one takes the cake...  What the hell is the guy on the left doing? Crumping? What did the designer have in mind? Miniatures don't just "get made," they involve preliminary design sketches, painstaking armature posing and sculpting, and final approval from the manufacturer. Was Privateer just like, "Yeah, that is something that a catapult crewman would do- wave his arms around for no reason. Looks good- print it!" Seriously, how does shit like this get made? This is worse than the Ogryn Bosun's ballsack hanging out. |
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Post by RARE CHOICE GAMES on Feb 4, 2008 13:48:27 GMT -6
He is signaling for help..."if you get in trouble just wave your hands in the air...like you just dont care." On a seperate note, I like the Idrian Skirmishers UA that is coming out...I wish i knew if it made those guys super awesome. Let me know if anyone knows the rules.  I also like this figure though he kinda looks like a Protectorate Jason.  Once again if anyone knows what these do let me know. |
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Post by Rios on Feb 4, 2008 15:15:02 GMT -6
josh, their rules will be coming out in the next no quarter...so march....adam i believe he's getting ready to drop his hand to signal the fire...while the other arm is outstretched like he's doing a waltz i have no idea
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Post by Pop goes the world on Feb 4, 2008 15:31:26 GMT -6
Well, Rios, in that case, why is the other dude pointing? Who is running this catapult anyway? The only one doing any real work is the loader, who is holding his spiky ball so awkwardly that he is probably gonna drop it anyway. No wonder the rules suck so bad, there is a constant power struggle between the gunner and commander. That being said, if a model's pose/intent is not immediately obvious (ie, I have to think "what is this dude doing?) than it is a failure. On the opposite end of the pose spectrum, there is Enigma miniatures, whom I just discovered. Their poses are so natural, and their sculpts so well done, that I might pick some up even though they aren't connected to any actual rule system. They are so nice, they are awesome all on their own.  For instance- this guy is a retard, so he is posed all paulseyed and stuff. i get that right away. Also, he is getting hugs from a creepy little bear. Check them out at www.enigmaminiatures.com/web/en/home.htm |
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Post by RARE CHOICE GAMES on Feb 4, 2008 15:34:43 GMT -6
His eyebrow is also up...which is also giving a good feeling of what he is thinking "SAY WHAT!!!"
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Post by ddaypunk06 on Feb 8, 2008 14:13:13 GMT -6
The one arm is up to signal a hold to the rest of the crew, and the other arm is probably the one he is planning to drop to signal the go. Who knows...thus why Im not the retarded everblight! mwahahah
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Post by Rios on Feb 8, 2008 23:34:15 GMT -6
just cause we always whip your ass lol
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Post by ddaypunk06 on Feb 9, 2008 12:26:26 GMT -6
I only played you once where you may have won but not by a huge amount with your everblight. If I remember...the other time was 1000pts and Kromac literally raped your one twin caster in the booty hole. btw...magnus owns the cygnar lol!
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Post by Rios on Mar 4, 2008 17:30:32 GMT -6
this is a little redemption on PP's part, awesome looking model   |
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Post by RARE CHOICE GAMES on Mar 4, 2008 18:54:12 GMT -6
I agree with you on this one Mike, I saw this model yesterday and was impressed with it. Though I like the mounted version better than the on foot one...a lance on foot just doesnt do anything for me.
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Post by Leudast1215 on Mar 4, 2008 20:26:54 GMT -6
It's a pointy stick what's not to like? Especially when it zaps ppl?
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Post by RARE CHOICE GAMES on Mar 4, 2008 20:39:29 GMT -6
Whats not to like? Its a lance being carried by someone on foot.
Lance that zaps still lame on foot...on horse makes sense or even on a 10 speed bike...but on foot nope.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Mar 4, 2008 21:54:16 GMT -6
I disagree with you both. I actually think this model is pretty mediocre. The posing is bland and lifeless, the armor sculpt (like most Cygnar armor) is neither crisp nor metal-looking, and the facial sculpt on both models is kinda blah. Not to mention, on an overall design level, this is just an uninspired mini. Compared to the Man-o-war Kovnik, this model is kinda crappy.
For an example of GOOD sculpting and posing, look towards GW's new Vampire Count character models. I don't usually toot GW's horn, but I must say many of their new Vampire Count character models are really nice. The new vampire count characters are all posed in a naturally dramatic fashion, and have overall incredible sculpts.
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Post by bloodangellh on Mar 4, 2008 23:08:26 GMT -6
I like the new dragoon for cygnar. I certainly don't think it's bad, but I must agree with Adam, the new Vampire counts, especially characters are fantastic. We'll just forget the abominations that are crypt ghouls.
The designers for the new Vampire counts characters said they tried their best to move away from generic looking models that could represent different types of characters, and made each one with a specific purpose in mind (combat, magic, crazy eye...etc.) I think that helps a lot with the overall feel of the finished model.
On a side note, I've bought a few things from Enigma before. They are one of the few companies that produce good, realistic female faces, which you can buy packs of.
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Post by RARE CHOICE GAMES on Mar 4, 2008 23:26:58 GMT -6
I will agree with you both that the new vampire counts line does have some good models. No argument there. I do disagree with adam about this particular cygnar model (the mounted one) but adam is way better at the painting and modeling aspect of the hobby so his opinion trumps mine easily.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Mar 5, 2008 1:52:18 GMT -6
On the Crypt Ghouls- THANK YOU! Jesus Christ, they are supposed to be ugly, but not in the way that crappy plastic models are naturally ugly...
As for the new Cygnar model- it is not TERRIBLE, it is just not GOOD per say. I guarantee that the design sketches for that model look 100 times better than the finished product, and it is probably because of subtle differences. The mounted model is just that- a mounted model. What is the model doing? Is it attacking? Is it triumphantly rearing back? I should know immediately what the artist's intent was when choosing a pose for the model. There are FAR too many models out there for every system that suffer from shitty poses. We went over this when the privateer models came out. It is no longer sufficient to have the "angry guy with his arms up holding weapons" pose, as the industry has gone to better places with both sculpting prowess and mold/casting technology.
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