Square bases in 40k (daemons)

[Relando]

I was thinking of picking up the Daemons 40k codex after hearing some revised rules for the new edition

I do need to buy some more for increasing fantasy army (mostly core which is - Bloodletters, deamonetts, horrors and pleagebears)

as of right now I have the following daemons

SC
Skulltaker on Juggy
(Tzeench Greater Daemon SC)

Char
1 Bloodthirster
1 Tzeench Deamon Prince
1 Korne Deamon Prince
3 Halrald of Tzeench
1 Harald of korne

Troops?(core)
42 Horrors - 2 sets of full command
1 changeling

Other Special and Rare
10 Screamers of Tzeench
5 Nurglings
5 Hounds + Karnak

2 Juggernaughts with icon and musician
(Going to get a harald of korne on juggy too)
6 Flamers

suggestions for a 1000, 1500, 1850, 2k

I am not sure what the usual game size is currently

Any help would be Helpful

Thanks

[Andrew]

I usually like to play 1500, as it gives some size but is shorter, allowing for more games to be had in a night. I'd probably suggest the following for each size:

1000 (strong shooting, weak assault)
HQ
Skulltaker - juggernaut (175)

Elites
3 Flamers (105)
3 Flamers (105)

Troops
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch (180)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch (180)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch (180)

Fast Attack
5 Flesh Hounds (75)


1500 (strong shooting, average assault)
HQ
Bloodthirster - all upgrades (300)
Skulltaker - juggernaut (175)

Elites
3 Flamers (105)
3 Flamers (105)
2 Juggernauts - instrument of chaos (85)

Troops
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, the changling (210)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon (205)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon (205)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon (205)

Fast Attack
5 Flesh Hounds - Karanak (110)


1750 (strong shooting, average assault)
HQ
Bloodthirster - all upgrades (300)
Skulltaker - juggernaut (175)

Elites
3 Flamers - bolt of tzeentch (115)
3 Flamers - bolt of tzeentch (115)
2 Juggernauts - musician (85)

Troops
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician, the changling (215)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician (210)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician (210)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician (210)
5 Nurglings (65)

Fast Attack
5 Flesh Hounds - Karanak (110)
5 Screamers (80)
5 Screamers (80)


2000 (strong shooting, average assault)
Fateweaver (333)
Bloodthirster - all upgrades (300)

Elites
3 Flamers - bolt of tzeentch (115)
3 Flamers - bolt of tzeentch (115)

Troops
11 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician, the changling (232)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician (210)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician (210)
10 Horrors - bolt of tzeentch, icon, musician (210)
5 Nurglings (65)

Fast Attack
5 Flesh Hounds - Karanak (110)
5 Screamers - unholy might (85)
5 Screamers (80)


Basically, you have tons of defensive shooting with what you have now. This is great for 5th edition 40k, as basically you need to be able to squat on objectives and blow others away. Even VP games you can shoot things to death. Your assault options are limited, as horrors and flamers suck for it. Fateweaver will give those 4+ invulnerable saves a reroll, which is quite nice.