Mighty Empires Summer Test Campaign

[e1567]

So Mike and I are going to buy the Mighty Empires Campaign and want to run it during the Fall semester of club but before that we are going to run a test campaign this summer. We have no idea how many people will be available this summer but we are hoping for at least 4. If you have any questions about this event please ask either me or Mike. For additional information on Mighty Empires please go to us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/mightyempires/default.htm

[bensliver]

That looks super cool, but I won't be able to be around except maybe once a week so...

[ddaypunk06]

We'll see how much of my army I can get together over the summer.

[siriq]

yah that does look really cool but idk how much i can be around during the summer

[e1567]

Well we do not have the rules just yet but early on we would only have to meet once a week for turns and to do the battles. But later in the campaign multiple battles will need to be done so special meetings during the week would have to be done between participants.

But unlike during the fall semester we have like 3 months to do it, it will be rather laid back with lots of mistakes on the Game Masters part so once a week ought to do it.

[e1567]

Ok so I just bought the mighty empires box and lets just say......that it is utterly terrible. The rules are geared towards adding meaning to your pick up games but that it just what these rules are pick up games beyond the games themselves there is little strategy involved. The map tiles are badass looking but that really does not make up for the 5 pages of rules that come with them. I still want to run this game so what I am going to do is look at the old Mighty empires game and see if I can get them to work with 7th edition and still play this over the summer.

So I have 3 votes for people saying they can play but only ben and caleb posting they might make it so here is who I have for the campaign:

Definitely
Ian R.
Mike Rios

Maybe
Ben
Caleb
Dave
Bill
Adam H.

No one needs to make the commitment just yet, probably not until June and definitely after I post the revamped rules which will take a while since the old mighty empire rules are over 60 pages long and some have to do with sea battles which none of us can do. Till then just let me know what you are looking in a campaign these are my ideas so far:

Over all empire upkeep which includes your armies.

Banners have a dedicated list and will only change under certain circumstances.

Upgrades for tiles/territories

I'm not so sure how to do movement. In the new crappy rules you have to spend empire points to take over adjacent tiles and you get empire points based on your one battle of the week. I really dont like this system that much.

What my goal going into this is to make a map based campaign similar to the border princes campaign we did a while ago but add more depth to it which will require more strategy and dedication.

[siriq]

sounds sexy cant wait to see what you have come up with.

[Andrew]

Cornbread, John, and Bill played up some old Mighty Empires a couple nights ago and it looked pretty cool. It shouldn't be that hard to adapt.

[e1567]

Well I haven't looked at the rules just yet. They are extremely in depth and it takes alot of commitment to play them from what I have seen. Some of the rules seem odd for 7th edition, like fortifications double or triple your points. I would have to see if the attacker would have a chance. Like I said I will simply combine the old rules with some of the new rules and try to make them work with 7th edition, cuz remember these rules were made during hero hammer and the points were done a little different back then, as far as I know. But like I said I haven't read them just yet.

[e1567]

Ok so I have read most of the rules and I think that the rules are badass but I must now add a disclamer to entering this campaign.

Warhammer as a game is suppose to be fun losing or winning should not really matter. But that does not mean this game/hobby should not be taken seriously. Don't get me wrong I hate it when people preach to me what is the best army or what you need to do to make your stuff looks good and takes this game a little over the top. So the moral of the story is you should take this hobby for what it is a fun table top game made for our enjoyment.

Here comes the but now.

BUT this campaign is very very involved excluding the table top games it can take 2 and half hours to do one full round (12 turns). If someone loses interest in the campaign and quites or doesn't care enough to learn the rules and just half asses the campaign they will most likely ruin it for everyone else. So once I post the rules (probably in a month or so, need to do some play testing) you will have to decide if you can make the commitment to play and take this campaign serious but still have a lot of fun.

I really don't mean to be a bastard about this, but the last fantasy campaign we played kinda fell apart after a while people quite, and or just lost interest and it kinda ruined it for the others and I really do not want that to happen.

That being said I think im going to limit this test campaign to 3-6 people depending on the scale we are going to do the campaign(amount of turns, points allowed in the empire and how many tiles are going to be used). Since I am limiting it I may not play so I can just run it but I will have to wait and see I will let everyone know how I will decide who can play but most likely everyone can (I still have not converted all the rules to 7th edition so I am not sure how many people this game can support)

[Rios]

i know john's been asking about this so we need to get rolling you and i Ian, i believe so far we have

Ian
Rios
Dave
Bill
Delso?
John?
Kurt?
maybe other people

[Leudast1215]

I'd be interested if nobody minds me proxying 40K miniatures because given it's warhammer fantasy I can just toss em' on Trays and simply play it to my disadvantage given they're all on circle bases? It's just that none of the Warhammer minis really appeal to me all that much and they seem more pricey than 40K. I hope it's not too much to ask because I need as much as I can do over the summer (cept July) and it's not a tournament or anything.

[ddaypunk06]

its not easy to proxy round based models for square based models. just so you know.

I am all in, I own my high elves, and I am working on putting them together.

Been job hunting though. I have days off next week and should have all or most put together.

[e1567]

Rios did you say that you and I need to get rolling I just figured that I would do all of the prep for this campaign since I have been doing all the work and you really need to get your ass in gear with the Gamesday board. ;D

Delso, if you think you will have enough models to run around 3,000 pts worth of games you are most certainly welcomed to play.

Tom im going to have to say no to an all proxied army. If you were proxying a army that you were working on then I would say hell yes but it sounds like you just want to proxy an army and never actually build that and no offense I really want commited players to this campaign because it is going to be really involved.

With finals I haven't had a chance to type the rules up but I have almost everything I want written down.

I am going to allow pretty much as many people play this that want to. But remember the more people that play this the quicker people will get knocked out.

[Leudast1215]

So that's a no even for testing over the summer ? Btw it doesn't take too much imagination for a movement system based on trays to mentally extend the edges of a circle base for purposes of testing if necessary, but yes for the campaign itself in the fall I would agree it would become a hassle. How many points of Fantasy were you considering as being necessary anyway?

[e1567]

Well with everyone that wants to play this over the summer this is less a test campaign than just the first time playing it. I'm probably going to test the rules just using the campaign map with like 3 people before we actually incorporate table top battles to see how it will run over all since the tabletop portion will be a lot like pick up games.

Also tom you would make the 8th person so I kinda had to draw the line somewhere. I know Delso will have to proxy a little since he will not have 3,000 pts but at the very least he is attempting to build an army for fantasy.

[Leudast1215]

Btw if I did acquire a 3000 Fantasy Army would I still be elligible to participate? I've been looking closely at Ogre Kingdoms (low model count and relatively minimal $ compared to the other armies at that point level) I'm thinking of them just to collect/paint alone, but would be more tempted to go through if I knew I had an event/people to game with regularly.

[RARE CHOICE GAMES]

The club has a large number of people who play fantasy so you have the people.

Events happen occasionally.

[ddaypunk06]

I should have all of my box set hopefully assembled by Thursday. Unfortunately that is Jessie's 21st bday...so during the day I will be at her parents...and then nighttime is bar time. So no gaming that day.

Box Set + 2 Mages = roughly 1000 without magic items I think or spells and what not. If john gets my 25th anniv. box in I will have over 2500 I think, and a lot more versatile army.

Until then I can like proxy the dragon prince and use figures that other people aren't currently using for proxies.

[e1567]

Tom, if you could provide at least a 1,500 pt army you most definitely could play, same goes for you delso. Games should not go over 3,000 pts they could. I will go into more details thursday the 29th when I will be bringing in the rules and maybe we will try to start playing the thursday afterwards.