New position available!

[Andrew]

The board has created a new position and it's open! It is as follows:

Sergeant at Arms
Requirements: Strong voice, ability to talk to others, must be able to come to every club meeting (bar sicknesses)
Job Description: Introduce potential members to our club (when they show up) and ask what they play, and if they would like to join us.
ALSO:
Keeper of order and security at club meetings. This includes making sure the downstairs isn't in chaos on club nights and talking to people that shouldn't be there. You'll have to ask people who aren't paid club members (usually angry magic players) to leave the downstairs on club nights. We will let you know our procedure when all is well and done.

Benefits: None, other than wearing a cool club shirt with a fun saying.

[vicmohammad]

I think you mean it's suppose to be called Sergeant at Arms, like the guy who keeps order in meetings of congress.

EDIT: I would have no problem filling this position if the executive board feels that I am eloquent enough for the work. However, there were two people playing 40k that were not in the club last Thursday whom are very old and dear friends - would I be responsible for booting them out as well?

[Andrew]

Actually, they have joined right under your nose! Noel and Steven have signed up and are paid club members!

[siriq]

i think having this position is a bad idea

[Andrew]

Do further your thought process and explanation sir. We'd like to know why.

[vicmohammad]

seahawk said:

Actually, they have joined right under your nose! Noel and Steven have signed up and are paid club members!

Oh that's awesome! I thought they were just freelooading.

[siriq]

i see this as just an excuse to get another person on the ex board, when there doesnt need to be. To be perfectly honest it shouldnt be up to just on person to express to another that they arent allowed downstairs. It should be the responsibility of the club as a whole not just the ex board. If say alex is more up front about things and notices some down there that should be there it should, he should ask them to leave as a concerned member of the club, not because he holds a position that says he can or should. and if a club member isnt confortable about confronting someone then he should point it out to someone that is. and its kind of disrepectful to obg, its their gaming area, you guys are going to have someone specifically there to kick people out.


just my two cents

[alexchungdo]

Regarding Sergeant at Arms
I am completely ok with voicing my opinion and letting people understand that NIMG has the right to OBG gaming area from 5:30-11 on Thursday nights.

I also could see how some people could miss understand what, i think, the exec board is trying to accomplish. The club needs several things to function for it to be a active fun club such as:

• First, A small net capital (sorry finance major) to be able to fund prize support,Thats is where ONCE IN A LIFETIME dues comes in, $5 for you supporting the club you like so much in order to help fund prize support for events. When I heard this i though cool more events only $5, shit i spend that much on subway p.s. (Delso & Jess make great sandwiches)
  
  
• Second, an area that allows for our type of gaming. An area that isn't filled with people trying to touch your Mini's, being ridiculously loud to the point where you get annoyed and want to round house kick them in the fucking face, That is why we have the RIGHT to use the OBG gaming area on Thursdays. John and Seth both understand this and also have made previous posts when people have stated there unhappiness over this situation. Your Right is connected with your membership to NIMC, members have the Right to be in the OBG during NIMC night. (I know so simple, right)
  
  
• Third Active members who are willing to bring their A game to every meeting, but walk away a good winner or a good loser. The club should be a fun environment for everyone.
  
  

I agree It should be the responsibility of the club to recognize who its members are, but if one person can bring order to the gaming area, without big scenes, then the whole club benefits (from the previously stated) because than others gamin isn't interrupted, they don't have to feel bad about asking people to leave (its a policy, everyone follows it or it doesn't work)

So I am announcing that I will also being running for this position.

[Pop goes the world]

I don't know- I think with the current situation being as it is, it is a really good position. I know that often, when non-members come down to game on Thursdays, nobody says anything because everyone assumes an exec board member is already working on it. This usually results in a delay between the time people are noticed, and them getting booted upstairs. That means they get their shit spread out, etc. I think nominating someone to specifically inform people about our exclusive usage of the basement on Thursdays would make it alot easier. Everyone knows who is responsible for doing so.

[vicmohammad]

I also like the idea of this position because it does get aggravating to have a bunch of people down their going nuts. I know a lot of us rarely say anything because we want to be respectful to the other patrons of the store (who also buy things from OBG) and wanting a calm area to play in. Honestly, I wouldn't care if other people were down there on Thursdays if they could contain themselves, but it seems to be a chronic problem so I think an executive position could be beneficial. I certainly don't want our club to come off as elitist - but I think we've been pretty patient.

On a related note, as we were paying for our tournament yesterday, there were a few magic players bitching and moaning about those "whiners who play on Thursdays". In the spirit of friendliness, myself and the other members who heard such things, decided to be the bigger man and let it go. Has anyone else encountered such hostility over our Thursday night meetings?

EDIT: I also do want to chime in that I am a little concerned about security when we do play on Thursdays. A lot of us have a lot of expensive miniatures laying around and we're constantly trying to have other members "look out for our stuff" when we go for food or something. Having an executive board member such as this would go a long way to make me feel more comfortable about leaving my miniatures in the store while I run over to McDonalds.

[RARE CHOICE GAMES]

I agree the position is a good idea...though I can see Calebs point of view also and in defnse of the view he is not here as much to deal with the stuff that is going on. HAHA CALEB YOU SUCK GINGER!!!! Just kidding...you should come to the meetings more often I dont care if you have class...ditch it like a man...you Vag!!

In response to Vic's post about the magic players making comments about us. They do that all the time...it is extremely annoying but as bigger people we have to let it slide. One because we do not want to cause problems with OBG!...John and Seth are both good guys and have provided us with a nice place to play that has less hassles than HSC. We in exchange provide them with constant patronage and money...shit we brought in how many people for the Warmachine Tournament...15? I believe... TWO because as our club is supposed to a friendly place we need to have that kinda atmosphere. Let the magic players sit upstairs and bitch about us...we know it is happening and oh well does any of us really care what those type of people have to say (no offense to normal magic players coming up but it needs to be said) I mean look at them they are angry 20-40 year old men who have nothing better to do than bitch about the one night a week they can't be downstairs...even though the ones who bitch about us...I refuse to put up names of people I know bitch about us...are there at OBG! almost every freaking day.

The NIMGC's relationship with OBG! is Symbiotic...we both help each other...the situation from what I see is mutuallay agreeable. Bottom line is we need to be the bigger men and try not to fight with the "Magic Players".

OBG! and NIMGC both are awesome and as long as we work together we can make gaming in the Dekalb area better.

For clarities sake I am going to define Magic Player so people know who we are talking about and dont get offended when they read this and be like "Hey I am offended because I play magic"

[glow=red,2,300]The "Magic Player" we refer to is: A patron of many game stores who feels that Magic is the only real game available to the human species and refers derogitavely towards other gamers to make themselves feel better about themselves. Prime examples of their insults are...actually I have heard these uttered at OBG! by some of the folks that we are talking about "Here come the minature gamers to play with their dolls" CLASSIC BURN. We at the NIMGC are in No way against magic or its NORMAL players...in fact many of us also play magic and enjoy the game...myself included...we dont enjoy the game with people like the magic players we speak of above who are childish sad little men who have nothing better to do than hang out at local stores and make fun of other people cause they know that no repercussions will be in order...these are the same people who go onto forums and flame threads...So i hope that clears up any misunderstanding that might have been had about our definition of "magic player" when we are talking about the bad ones. ALL YOU NOMRAL MAGIC PLAYERS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK OF NOT BEING DICKS AND WE MINITURE GAMERS WILL DO THE SAME AND TOGETHER HOPEFULLY OUR KINDS WILL LIVE IN PERFECT HARMONY. I have a dream that magic players and miniature gamers will be able to be in the same store and not want to hurt each other...ohhh I have that dream and hopefully it occurs soon cause lets face it I am only here for 5 more weeks.[/glow]

[siriq]

I know i havent been around to deal with this crap, but i really dont believe the responsiblity should rest with one person on the exect board, and not to be disrepectful, but it shouldnt be the responsiblity of the exct board to ask these people to leave, if your unsure if some one has asked them to leave ask them anyway, the more people hassle other people the more unconfortable it is for them to be someone place they arent supposed to be. It should be a club effort and if the club as a whole supports this then it will work better than on person from the club asking people to leave. on a side note, viq i think your delusional about this person watching other peoples stuff while there not there. Again that should be a club effort. Im sticking with my opinion that this is just an excuse to have another person on the exc board and that this is sort of disrespecting OBG, regardless.

[e1567]

Well I do not see how we are disrespecting OBG. OBG has requested the we deal with people down there. Also not everyone knows everyone else who has payed or not and I beleive that someone with the training and someone that knows the procedure so no one will be offended and pushed away from the club. Also we should have a 5th exec board memeber. To break ties and to fill the official SA position of other.

[siriq]

ties? what ties, everything ive seen voted on was as a club not by the exc board. if obg is fine with it thats cool. But the way it sounds to me is that pretty much the majority of the club knows who has paid and who hasnt. This is because many of the member outside of the exc board has asked questions. I really dont see the need for training, to confront some one is pretty simple. Ask them their name, find out why they are there and if they arent interested in joining the club or blatantly doing something down there that they arent supposed to ask them to leave and consistently do so, to make it uncomfortable for them to stay. Which can be done from effectivly if more than one person is doing it. Its easy to ignore one person, not so much to ignore multiple people.

[Andrew]

I actually kinda agree with that.

Originally, it wasn't supposed to be a member of the exec board, so I was kinda surprised when it was. When we talked about it, we had specifically said they wouldn't be on the board and not really "board-like" powers, ie make decisions. They'd just be there to enforce the policy of Thursday nights. Typically it's only one person working the store, and he usually can't be downstairs. Don't forget too, it's not only going to be the new position's job to keep order, but also introduce new people to our club and inquire if they want to join us. So it's actually kinda like our PR/Bouncer person.

However, that being said members of the board don't really have any benefits to being on it. If anything we have stress for trying to manage the club, events, and funding. In that regard, it's not a big deal for it to be the last addition to our board roster.