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Post by tedwin183 on Jan 28, 2010 17:05:18 GMT -6
Additionally, with them, if you need them to charge into melee, with Joe and eIrusk, you can be doing POW 11+4D6 on the charge for each guy...and they have Ranked Infantry, so they don't block LOS. I'm really excited about the Riflemen. If they get a UA that gives them CRA...watch out for these guys...seriously.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Jan 28, 2010 21:16:16 GMT -6
Woah. I think my list just changed. Friggin sweet.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Jan 28, 2010 21:22:26 GMT -6
Allright- revised list with this new intel-
Supreme Kommandant Irusk +5WJ
Kodiak 8
Great Bears of Gallowswood 5
Winter Guard Rifle Corps (Leader and 9 Grunts) 8
Man-o-war Shocktroopers (Leader and 4 Grunts) 9
Winter Guard Mortar Crew (Leader and Grunt) 3
Winter Guard Mortar Crew (Leader and Grunt) 3
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich 2
Widowmaker Marksman 2
Same idea as before, but now with more shooty! Plus, since the marksman can shoot through everybody with Martial Discipline, he will be nice and safe behind the horde!
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Post by tedwin183 on Jan 28, 2010 22:09:22 GMT -6
That's a pretty sick ass list. I think you'd like pIrusk more for it, as he gives Superiority to the Kodiak. It's his feat that really sells it. +2 to Melee AND ranged attack rolls is fricking SWEET. They also get tough rolls on 4, 5, 6 for the round and are fearless and cannot be knocked down. However, eIrusk's feat is also really good with this list, as it allows you to ignore forests for the feat turn, as well as prevents anything from charging you during the feat turn (-2 SPD prevents 'jacks from charging due to the negative change in SPD and no orders means Units can't charge because it's an order). I'd say stick with eIrusk. He gives a little bit of goodness to everything in the list. This list is a tree hugger type of list. Hide near cover all game and wait for your opponent to come to you. Really pretty nasty. The covering fire the Rifle Corp can lay down for the jack +MoW approach is exciting.
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Post by tedwin183 on Jan 28, 2010 22:09:50 GMT -6
Good list, Adam. It'll perform well and be thematic on top of it.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Jan 28, 2010 22:24:44 GMT -6
That's a pretty sick ass list. I think you'd like pIrusk more for it, as he gives Superiority to the Kodiak. It's his feat that really sells it. +2 to Melee AND ranged attack rolls is fricking SWEET. They also get tough rolls on 4, 5, 6 for the round and are fearless and cannot be knocked down. However, eIrusk's feat is also really good with this list, as it allows you to ignore forests for the feat turn, as well as prevents anything from charging you during the feat turn (-2 SPD prevents 'jacks from charging due to the negative change in SPD and no orders means Units can't charge because it's an order). I'd say stick with eIrusk. He gives a little bit of goodness to everything in the list. This list is a tree hugger type of list. Hide near cover all game and wait for your opponent to come to you. Really pretty nasty. The covering fire the Rifle Corp can lay down for the jack +MoW approach is exciting. I actually picked up the new PIrusk model the other day, and put him on a sweet scenic base. Will post pics shortly. Figured he would be good to have around. |
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Post by tedwin183 on Jan 28, 2010 23:57:40 GMT -6
pIrusk will do admirably well in this list. Really, you could swap out the Kodiak for a Destroyer with pIrusk. He gives 1 more jack point than eIrusk. Both Irusks will work great with this list, really. It makes me realize I really need to flesh out the rest of my MoW ST squad. I've been thinking about Old Witch lately. She screams "GIMME RIFLEMEN!". My eSorscha list is the one I want to piece together first:
eSorscha
Beast-09
Great Bears
WG Riflemen (Leader and 9 Grunts)
WG Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts)
WG Infantry UA
WG Rocketeer
Kovnik Joe
WG Mortar
WG Mortar
35pts.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Jan 29, 2010 12:20:47 GMT -6
Looks good, but I would LOVE to play against that army with my Cryx... Also would not fare well against Krueger.
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Post by tedwin183 on Jan 30, 2010 1:04:32 GMT -6
I know, it's a pretty hilarious list. It has terrible matchups against pretty much everything. I have a pretty tasty little eIrusk list I am working on. I am also working with the idea of Old Witch. My eIrusk looks like this:
eIrusk
Spriggan
Destroyer
Great Bears
WG Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts)
WG UA
WG WA
WG WA
Kovnik Joe
Widowmaker Marksman
Harlan Versh
I replaced the mortars with a Destroyer. I figured keeping FFE on the destroyer for a while is good, the spriggan also has some ranged ability. WG are the brick of the army and the Bears, Marksman and Harlan support everything. I have been putting Harlan in most of my lists lately. He is just too useful.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Jan 30, 2010 18:03:59 GMT -6
Interesting... I'll have to take a look at Harlan.
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Post by Rios on Jan 30, 2010 22:07:46 GMT -6
I might have to go modernized Cygnar now that Legion got the nerf bat hard. Kara Sloan here I come.
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Post by tedwin183 on Jan 31, 2010 13:39:29 GMT -6
Harlan is great because he deals with infantry really well, hitting most things, reliably, and he has multi-fire, so he can potentially kill 4 models in one round of shooting. Additionally, if anything tries to use any magic within 10" of him, he gets to make a free normal attack towards them. If they have upkeeps on them, they can pretty much put their head between their legs and kiss their ass goodbye. Boosted attack and damage rolls against models with upkeeps on them and he has Blessed, so no DEF or ARM buffs. Lastly, he has a RNG 10" magic weapon at range and a magic weapon for melee. Stealth, fearless, all make for a nasty, nasty little 2pt solo.
Before, I couldn't figure out how to fit him into any lists, then I threw together a mish mosh list of all the models I have painted, and he really, really made me reconsider fitting Gorman or Orin into my lists with a stray 2pts. I'd be so bold as to say he'd probably win, toe-to-toe, with a manhunter. Both have stealth, but if Harlan can get his shots in, Manhunter is toast.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Jan 31, 2010 20:23:56 GMT -6
I'm sold on him. Picked him up today at Games Plus, along with the Khador cards, eIrusk (I gotta do something else with his base...), and a mortar.
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Post by tedwin183 on Feb 3, 2010 16:55:00 GMT -6
Man, so you're in full-tilt Khador mode now, huh? Yeah, Harlan is so good. I was a non-believer until I played a few games with him. He's good out on a flank or mixed in with your troops. He's stealth and if you dare use an upkeep, he will punish you hard for it.
So now you have:
pIrusk
eIrusk
Mortar
I say get those painted up and then put an order in for the riflemen asap. They will take a while to paint, but they will be so worth it.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Feb 4, 2010 10:08:01 GMT -6
Way ahead of you. I ordered everything I will need- As of UPS shipment time today, I should have...
eIrusk
pIrusk
War Hound
Rifle Corps
Full Shocktroopers
2 Mortars
Marksman
Harlan
Great Bears
Kodiak/Juggernaut/Destroyer/Decimator (Fully painted- Pics to follow)
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Post by shintaibane on Feb 4, 2010 13:58:09 GMT -6
Yikes!! You got more than me in one shot. Must resist urge to buy more!  |
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Post by tedwin183 on Feb 5, 2010 22:55:05 GMT -6
Haha. Holy crap, you went nuts! That's going to be a nice force. I'm looking forward to seeing them painted. I've actually accumulated quite a sizable force:
pButcher
pSorscha
eSorscha
eIrusk
pVlad
Kodiak
Juggernaut
Destroyer
Max Winterguard Infantry
3 Rocketeers
Winterguard UA
Kovnik Joe
Widowmakers
Widowmaker Marksman
min. MoW Shocktroopers
Greylord Ternion
2 Winterguard Mortars
MoW Kovnik
MoW Drakhun
War Dog
pEiryss
Harlan
Aiyanna & Holt
Gorman
Orin
...I think that's it...
I will be purchasing Beast-09, Spriggan, Great Bears and Battle Mechaniks in the very near-future. Maybe a couple days.
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Post by tedwin183 on Feb 5, 2010 22:58:24 GMT -6
Wait, Adam, you don't have any Widowmakers? I'd drop 1 Mortar and the Dog for a squad of them almost without thinking about it. With the Widowmaker Marksman, they are beyond ferocious. I ended up taking care of an entire flank with them in a graveyard that provided concealment. They ended up sending discharge papers to a unit and a half of Trenchers while they were dug in...
That marksman is NASTY. Makes Widowmakers from good to an absolute terror.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Feb 6, 2010 21:56:07 GMT -6
I would, but my 35 point list, as it stands, is...
Supreme Kommandant Irusk +5 wj
Kodiak 8
Great Bears of Gallowswood 5
Winter Guard Rifle Corps (Leader and 9 Grunts) 8
Man-o-war Shocktroopers (Leader and 4 Grunts) 9
Winter Guard Mortar Crew (Leader and Grunt) 3
Winter Guard Mortar Crew (Leader and Grunt) 3
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich- 2
Harlan -or- Marksman- 2
Total- 35
I can't really conveniently drop any one thing- All the units are pretty integral to my strategy at full strength, and Grigorvich's boosted attach rolls for the Rifle Corps is too good to pass up. I would drop a mortar, but I still need to free up a point. It would work for pIrusk, but not eIrusk, unless you can think of a better way.
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Post by Pop goes the world on Feb 6, 2010 23:02:38 GMT -6
I could do this...
Supreme Kommandant Irusk- +5wj
Juggernaut- 7
Winter Guard Rifle Corps (Leader and 9 Grunts)- 8
Great Bears of Gallowswood- 5
Man-o-war Shocktroopers (Leader and 4 Grunts)- 9
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts)- 4
Winter Guard Mortar Crew (Leader and Grunt)- 3
Widowmaker Marksman-2
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich- 2
-35 total
Losing the Kodiak and Mortar for a Juggy, Widowmakers and Marksman. Seems like a pretty good trade off. I lose the power attack ability and speed of the Kodiak, but I gain a whole lot of additional ranged firepower, which I think the list might benefit from. Plus, the Juggy is no slouch in combat- almost the same stats, needs a little more focus, but will probably just work as a flank tank, guarding the main body while presenting a huge threat.
What do you Khador vets think?
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